A long-form interview with mathematician Ding Jiu on how mathematics defines and proves “chaos”—from the Li–Yorke theorem (“Period Three Implies Chaos”) to later textbook criteria and the open question of “weak chaos.” Through the story of a proof and its scientific afterlife, the piece clarifies what chaos means in dynamical systems, and why it remains a hard mathematical problem.
This piece uses an interview structure to translate a mathematically rigorous discussion into a public explanatory framework: how “chaos” is understood in dynamical systems, how unpredictability becomes a provable result, and why mathematics does not seek a single, final definition in this field. This mathematical perspective underpins how modern technological systems confront risk, uncertainty, and the limits of control.
Excerpt 1 · Definition without one definition: how mathematics frames “chaos”.
The mathematical idea of chaos was first introduced by Tian-Yuan Li and James Yorke in “Period Three Implies Chaos.” That eight-page note did not offer a textbook-style formal definition. Instead, it proved an unexpected result for continuous functions with a “period-three point”: there exist more initial points than all natural numbers, and for those starting points, iterating the function generates infinite sequences whose eventual behavior is unpredictable—seemingly a mess. From this, they proposed “chaos” as a mathematical term for the first time.
Excerpt 2 · How a proof travels: rejection, revision, and the theorem’s second life.
After finishing the paper, they submitted it to The American Mathematical Monthly, the world’s most widely read mathematics journal. It was quickly rejected. The editor said, “Your article is too deep—our main readers are undergraduates,” but added, “If you still want to publish with us, rewrite it so undergraduates can understand it.” At the time, they had not realized the paper’s potential significance; busy with other work, they left it untouched for a year. In late May 1974, Robert May—one of the best-known scientists of the time—visited the University of Maryland’s math department for a week of talks. After the final talk, Yorke drove him to the airport and showed him “Period Three Implies Chaos” on the way. May immediately grasped its importance and began promoting the Li–Yorke theorem widely during his summer trip to Europe. Yorke then recognized the paper’s real value: it could explain iterative problems in population dynamics, and it also helped clarify Lorenz’s finding that long-term weather prediction is impossible. Two weeks later they revised the manuscript; three months later it was accepted by The American Mathematical Monthly and published the following December.
Excerpt 3 · “Weak chaos”: why nature stays unstable but not catastrophic.
Chaos is often associated with “initial errors growing exponentially.” In real life, exponential growth means extremely rapid increase, and in the worst cases it can lead to frightening outcomes—like infection numbers rising exponentially during a pandemic. By “weak chaos,” Dyson likely meant that the irregularity is not so strong or so extreme. In mechanics, if a column of soldiers crosses a bridge in perfect step, resonance can collapse the bridge. Weak chaos, however, keeps chaotic motion bounded, preventing violent instability. That is why celestial bodies can exhibit chaotic behavior—small oscillations in their orbits—without escalating into collisions and the destruction of the universe. The butterfly effect is similar: a butterfly’s wingbeat may contribute to a snowstorm elsewhere two weeks later, like a disaster movie, but it will not drive Guangdong to −30°C. Weak chaos is good news for us: it suggests nature is, in a sense, merciful.